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Jeremiç qau kur mësoi për pavarësinë e Kosovës
13 Shtator 2011, 13:05Politika
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Ministri i Jashtëm i Serbisë, Vuk Jeremiç, në fillim të dhjetorit të vitit 2007 është ballafaquar me qëndrimin amerikan, se Serbia patjetër duhet ta njohë Kosovën, nëse dëshiron integrimet evropiane.
Në takim me ambasadorin amerikan në Kombet e Bashkuara në New York, Alejandro Daniel Wolff, Jeremiç mësoi se Kosova do të jetë e pavarur.
“Ambasadori Wolff i ka thënë Jeremiçit të emocionuar se ‘kemi arritur në fund të rrugës’ – pavarësia e Kosovës është e paevitueshme. Serbia duhet të ballafaqohet me këtë realitet. Nëse vendosni ndryshe, kjo do të shkonte në dëm të Serbisë”, citohet t’i ketë thënë Wolff shefit të diplomacisë serb.
Jeremiç, sipas kabllogrameve të publikuara nga WikiLeaks, nuk është përmbajtur nga emocionet: ai ka mbuluar fytyrën me duar, dhe kishte filluar të qante. Më pas largoi duart nga fytyra e tij, duke thënë se e ka “kuptuar porosinë”. /Zhurnal/
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Jo po kruaje prape me gjethe fiku po deshe ———————jebemti majku sisuti jebem…………..
Si thojn nga anet e mija:
Yt kjash vedin, kjash rrashten tande ishalla.
Nuk merr shembull ky Jeremici nga Sali Berisha , qe qeshte kur i dhuronte Greqise hapsira detare…cudi!!!
1 Pyetje, Cila eshte arsyeja qe shtyne Serbet te shprehen haptazi qe Kosova eshte e tyre ?
ngaqe jane vllezer ortodoks me greket dhe jane antishqiptare.
Prape ju Mandi ? Historikisht dyndja sllave njihet ne shek 8- 10 po ashtu dhe ne shek 12 etj, ndersa perandoria otomane duke filluar nga shek 14. Politika Serbe per mbajtjen e Kosoves nen Myslymanizem eshte arsyeja e tyre per te dale Autokton ne rajon. Pa dashje shqiptaret kosovar bien dhe kane rene ne gracken Serbe.
kosova kurr ska qen serbe kurr ne histori nuk ka ndodh qe nr i serbeve te jet me shum se 10% ,e pse jan aq agresiv ndaj kosoves te jeni te sigurt se ata sedin as vete , qe nje shekull e me teper serbet qysh si femi jan helmuar nete gjitha segmentet ne arsim ne tv ne edukat familjare jan helmuar dhe mashtruar se kosova eshte e tyre ,psh sikur nje person te fillon dhe te tregoj qdo dit nje enderr site vertet pas atyre 10 viteve ati ngjarja e endrres do i behet pernjemend dhe eshte veshtir te pajtohet se ka qen enderr kshtu serbet jan te bindur ndaj kosoves.por ne sju kemi faj se egzistojm jemi dote jemi,dhe ka marr fund ma kosova te jet serbe njeher e pergjithmon ksaj pune ne ne kosove i thom henger fiq e diq
rrahman gjermani, Une jam dakort me ju, Kosova eshte e Kosoves, Por ne perendim Fillozofet serb shkruajne historine qe 90 perqind te kosovareve jane turq te ardhur mbas 1550, Me cfare po ndodh ne kosove evropjanet ju konsiderojne si arabet qe jetojne sot ne BE dhe qe neser do ti kerkojne tokat. Kjo duhet te zgjidhet nga historjanet shqiptare duke shkruajtur historine ne gjuhe te huaj dhe jo te ndryshojne historine e pushtimit Otoman.
Cila eshte arsyeja qe shteti shovinist helaq shprehet haptazi qe Shqiperia e Jugut eshte e tij?
Mendohu pak se pyetja duhet te jete e veshtire… ! ?
Albana L. Pergjigjia eshte shume e thjeshte. kerkesa nuk eshte Vorio Hellada, por Vorio Epir. E njejta kerkese qe i shtyu deri ne luften Italo-Greke ne 1941. Per me teper informacione lexoni historine e Epirit,
Pse qan serbi???. Keta jane dhe trima, po kur vrisnin e prisnin gra e femije, po 3 luftra qe shkaktuan???. Po keta benin si te forte month???. Po aleatet e tyre: Rusi, Greqi, Rumani, vendet Arabe ku jane ???, pse se ndihmojne???. Ky eshte shekulli I qarjes se Serbise. Kam pershtypjen se do filloje edhe Greqia te qaje. Hmmm, nuk eshte mire te ngaterrohesh me keta yankit.
Djema, me lejoni ju lutem qe, edhe une te shprej mendimin tim se, pse Serbia e shpreh haptazi qe Kosova eshte e tyre. Duhet te sqaroj se, une nuk jam historian. Une mendoj se ka disa aresye :
– Nuk e di ne se e kam gabim por mendoj se, nje nga aresyet kryesore eshte feja orthodokse. E them kete se edhe ne Greqi feja orthodokse eshe shume e fuqishme dhe influeca e saj eshte e madhe ne opinionin publik grek. Ne linkun e meposhtem :
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griechenland
Shkruhet shprehimisht : “M.q.se shteti grek i shef te gjithe qytetaret e Greqise si greke, nuk jepen informacjone ne lidhje me pakicat sipas gjuheve qe ato flasin.
Vleresimet e numurit te tyre. te dhena nga organizatat e pakicave kombertare, jane shume me te larta dhe kjo gje nuk eshte studjuar si duhet.”
Pra sic e shifni, sipas tyre gjithe qytetaret e Greqise jane greke, gje qe per ndonje vend tjeter te europes perendimore eshte me se absurde.
Kam degjuar se greket thone se grek nuk behesh dot por lind.
Te njejten force ka edhe feja orthodokse ne Serbi.
– Mendoj se, shoqeria serbe eshte shume e doktrinuar. Shifni per shembull gjeneral Mladic i cili vrau 8mije myslimane ne Srebrenice. Ky vrases ne gjyqin e Hages thote se, lau nje borxh te vjeter qe serbet i kishin mylimaneve te Bosnjes, sepse keta te fundit para pese SHEKUKJSH kishin nderruar fene nga orthodokse ne myslimane.
– Jane te doktrinuar qysh ne djep me idene e Serbise se madhe. E shofin cdo gje vetem o me mua ose kunder meje. Jane te ushqyer me urejtje dhe nuk shofin dot realitetin ne sy.
– Une mendoj se, populli i kulturuar gjerman vrau dhe preu me se 6miljone cifute se u doktrinua me idene e RACES ARRJANE.
Pra per mua si konkuzjon mendoj se, serbet kane nje problem te madh,nuk jane humane, nuk jane tolerante, urrejtja per cdo gje qe nuk eshte serbe eshte shume e madhe, nuk shofin dot realitetin ne sy. Nuk arrijne dot te kuptojne se Rusia nuk i mbeshtet dot me, sepse harta gjeopolitike ne bote ka ndryshuar. Nuk arrijne dot te kuptojne se asnjeri nuk lejon sot qe te besh genocid, cdukje ethnike ne EUROPE.
Me falni se, kur une them serbet NUK nen kuptoj popullin e thjeshte serb por fanatiket orthodokse dhe ultranacjonalistet serbe.
Pershendetje.
Domethene se perpara, Shqiperia ka qene me e forte se Greqia dhe ka pushtuar Epirin !!
vinny,
Ne linkun poshte ne gjuhen shqipe ke shume informacjon ne lidhje me epirin. Ku duket kjarte sa pellazget ( paraardhesit tane ) kane qene atje me pare se greket. Ja linku :
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiri
Pershendetje
Po ate vorio epirin per ke e do dhe per cfare e do Hellada?Rilexo historine e epirit ku vet vet shkrimtar dhe filozof te greqise se lashte e kane quajtur popullsi barbare ate te epirit prandaj dhe e kolonizuan.So po te mos qe territor me popullsi te huaj nuk do ta kishin kolonizuar.ndonje dit rrezik do kerkoni dhe jugun e Italise neqoftese ja u mban.
Plaku
Sapo te lexova.Po qesh ne fakt, kur me thua takohemi ne stacionin e trenit.une kam nje shprehjen time(mbase sjam i vetem) ku takohen shqiptaret? neper bahnhofe(mos qesh ti tani se ekam shkruar korrekt)Une mendoj te dielen paradite do ishte me mire per mua.mwe thuaj nje emer lokali buze liqenit e do vi aty.Sme pelqen te em presesh ne stacionin e trenit se mbase vonohem se i thone mbi 100km.Keshtu eshte me mire ulur ne lokal.Faleminderit per ftesen ne shtepi por here tjeter e mbase vjen ti ne Zyrich me familjen.Kam kaluar vetem nje here ne Thun e nuk kisha mundesi te qendroja.E kesaj here dua ta shijoj liqenin e bukur te Thunit.
Albana L. Lexo dhe pastaj shiko cfar humb shqiperia duke zgjedhur historine 500 vjecare dhe do kuptoni kush do ta pervetesoje kete histori.Shqiptaret me fqinjet jane armiq mbas pushtimit Otoman.
Tiranci Lugano,
Une mendoj te bejme keshtu :
Jo larg stacjonit te trenit eshte nje lokal i nje miku im kosovar. Lakali quhet PRIMAVERA.
Me thuaj se cfrare ore afersisht dhe une te pres atje.
Pime nje bire atje dhe pastaj shkojme tek nje lokal i bukur qe e ka po nje kosovar. Atje duket shume bukur liqeni.
Pra me thuaj se cfare ore afersisht te djelen paradite. Shpresoj qe te te prishet mendja te vemi ne shtepine time. Me makine eshte vetem 5 minuta. Keshtu njifesh me djalin dhe gruan. Ne do bejme si te duash ti. Me thuaj te lutem se si vendose. Pershendetje.
Kjo laraska qe shkruan nen emrin tim duhet te jete ndonje transe greke, qe njeher shkruan nen emrin tourkofagos, njehere tjeter cakalli7, prapambetjetosmane etj. Vetem se laraska e kishes nuk kupton qe te falsifikosh duhet mjeshteri. Nje trans helaq duhet se pari te mesoje te shkruaje siç duhet, perpara se te kopjoje. Une te ashtuquajturen “Hellada” nuk e quaj kurre me ate emer shpifarak, por me emrin e merituar HELAQì.
Te fala laraskes dhe mamit te vet qe e ka pjelle; te kishte nxjerre nje kercu te thate, do te kishte fituar me shume: 1 vit ngrohje gratis!
shpulla, arsyja me e madhe qe shkijet e perdorin jane kishat e vjetra qe jane ne dardani e qe per mendimin tim jan tonat se para ardhjes se turqve shqiptaret kan qene krishter te gjithe
Shpulla,
Sic e shoh une, kur e shikon se je ne buze te varrit nuk ke se cfare te humbesh. Kosova eshte nje nga territoret nentokesore me te pasura te rajonit. Ekonomia serbe me pamvaresine e Kosoves humbet shume. Luftrat dhe konfliktet jane gjithmone ekonomike por fshihen shumica nen pretekstet fetare. Serbia po lufton me thonj e me dhembe qe ta mbaj Kosoven kryesisht per aresye ekonomike, duke bere deklarata tendecioze dhe te paturpeshme se Kosova eshte e ka qene pjese e territorit te tyre, kur edhe ajo pjese territoriale ku ata jane te shtrire sot , po te shkojme thelle ne histori, na perket neve dhe jo atyre. Por sic e thashe, atyre s’i ka mbetur me gje per te humbur. Kosova eshte bastioni i fundit i federates qe po i rreshqet nga duart. Nga ana tjeter,ne s’kemi me bythe t’u themi ””sikter nga keni ardhur ju derra, mos guxoni te prekni Kosoven”” si njehere e nje kohe. Se di per shtetin Kosovar, por ne s;kemi ushtri me. Berisha e ka shkaterruar kete vend me themel, keshtu qe ata s’kane frike te hapin gojen. Ata do e kene fitim edhe sikur te marrin veriun e Kosoves( Mitrovicen) .
Fjala e fundit, kur s;ke cte humbesh, kur eshte fjala per lufte per ekzistence, paturpesia eshte mjeti me i mire per te luftuar e per te arritur dicka, ja pse ata flasin kaq haptazi dhe jane te paturpshem ne deklaratat e tyre.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9p1WPW4URk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1V_MttA670
hallall ta befte zoti,kishim kohe pa degjuar kenge traditcionale
Nje mesues nga Shqiperia gjate okupacionit, Lufta e Dyte Boterore, kur shkojne ca shoke te tij per ta lajmeruar se ishte vrare nje antishqiptar /Aca Maroviq qe quante veten komunist/ kete te fundit e gjejne duke qare permbys. Ndoshta, “rastesisht” kur e kane degjuar kete lajm kane qare edhe Liridona e Berishes bashke me te emen Sllobodanken per kete lajm “kaq te hidhur”. Per c ti besh keshtu qenka jeta, “po fituaka e paverteta”. Kjo nuk po u ndalka as me vaje te ketyre antishqiptareve. Me ne fund do te kuptojne gati pothuajse te gjithe. Ngushllime per te gjithe ata qe kot po trumbetojne per njefare Serbie serbocetnike qe kishte vene do fare themelesh permbi gjakun e shqiptareve… Ju faleminderit…
sa te ndjeshem qe jem na ballkanasit!
qaj shqiptari n’ambasad amerikane,qaj serbi n’zyr t’amerikanit,!
jam kurioz ta ndigjoj se si e ka t’qamen Sala!
e ka me ulerima apo me gerthima.
hahahaha fryhemi si gjela e pastaj qajme si femra
Ka dhe nje moral ne sjelljen e ministrit serb,pikerisht morali qe u mungon politikaneve shqiptar.Serbi Jeremic ben gjithecka per te mbrojtur nje te pa drejte,por qe eshte ne favor te vendit te tij,ndersa politikani qe sot e kemi me vota te vjedhura kryetar bashkie,kur ishte minister i puneve te jashteme pa u merakosur fare i fali greqise 230 km2 det sikur ja kish lene babai.Keshtu ben dhe saliu me genc rulin,japin pasuri te vendit ne kembim te pushtetit.Serbet bejne te pa mundur per perfitim maksimal,ndersa politikanet tane,perfshi dhe opoziten,megjithese ne te drejten e tyre nuk ngrene zerin per camerine dhe per te drejtat e shqiptareve kudo ku jane,ky servilizem i ka bere ata te neveritshem pra fuqive te medha,sa me shume te mbrosh te drejtat e vendit tend,aq me shume respekohe nga te tjeret.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkU8rFGuuNQ&feature=related
Ngushellime jeremicit…
Plaku
une mendoj te nisem nga ora 8 e mengjesit.Sjam shum ne dijeni te rruges se eshte plot me punime por them si e djele do jete me mire.Nga ora 9.30 mendoj te jem aty.Plus minus kuptohet ne varesi te kohes.Te tjerat i shikojme me qetesi e aq me teepr prane qetesise qe te jep liqeni.Gjithsesi do degjohemi perseri e deri te shtunen do jem akoma me i sakte se do e shoh rrugen ne detaj.
pershendetje
ore po shkembeni e-mail-in dhe flisni rehat———-jeni bere si 2 te dashuruar……….
Takimin u mor vesh. Kini kujdes se mund te kaloj une andej pa u vene re dhe pa me njohur. Megjithate ja kalofshi mire, kujdes se mos na formoni ndonje parti me emrin “Tema”. Ein schönes Wochenende!
Tironsi Lugano,
Te pres reth ores 09.30 tek restorant PRIMAVERA. Eshte afer stacjonit te trenit te Thunit.
Pastaj shkojme tek nje restorant tjeter buze liqenit ( reth 10minuta me makine ) Eshte shume bukur. Besoj se ti je me makine apo jo. Kuptohet se do jesh miku im dhe do hame nje dreke bashke tek restoranti buze liqenit. Pershendetje.
Plaku
Ne rregull.Vetem se ate punen se kush eshte mik do e rregullojme aty.Me kupton besoj.Edhe nje here pershendetje e mos ip shume detaje se na “mesyn” Claus pastaj
Claus,
Ne se kohe dhe mundesi je i ftuar edhe ti. Faleminderit per urimin e fundit te javes.
Ich wünsche dir auch ein schönes Wochenende. Pershendetje
Jane miqte tane te forumit, do krijojne ne ilegalitet partine “Tema e re” hahahahaha. Meqe ra fjala edhe mua me ra te flija ne hotelin e aeroportit te Vjenes me 22 dhjetor se kishte ikur avioni per Tirane……….
Paske mbaru pune e qenke ne qef mesa kuptoj.pershendetje Rano
“Tema e re”, e forte, e forte! Po qesh…..Plaku keyetar!
Rani minister i mrenshem ne hije! Pastaj, i mjeri Sali.
Claus
Je ca si larg ti.Gjithsesi do ishe i mirepritur.Skrijojm dot parti se jemi ne opozite te forte:) Nje jave te mbare dhe ty(ca si larg fund java)
Tironci,
pas atij takimi do te kthehesh me mend te tjera. Logjiken e plakut nuk besoj se do ta perballosh dot, megjithate shpresoj te jesh opozite “konstruktive” ashtu sic e kerkon birra me krikell. Ju rekomndoj miqesisht te merrni nje “ein helles” qe po te “nxehet muhabeti” ktheni nje gllenke te ftohte dhe “qetesoni gjakrat”.
Satelietet per ate dite do ti programoj drejt “Primavera” e di qe do te paguaj dicka, por do te jem “live” aty. Mos harroni te merrni ndonje Laptop ose IPad ti hyme edhe ndonje diskutimi.
pershendetje
Claus
shpejt e shpejt se filluan ndeshjet.por me ngacmove me birren.Jam birrepires dhe e shijoj shume por fakti i te qenit me makine sme lejon me shume se dy.E te siguroj qe ketu birra eshte nga me te mirat e mundeshme.Po qesh me Ranin minister te brendshem.Sdo e bente keq dhe ministrin e kultures e te sporteve:))
Pershendetje
Tiranci Lugano,
E pe cfare goli beri Pato. Tani jane 2 me 1 per Barcelonen. Milan eshte jo mire. Une jam me Milan.
Kur te vish tek restoranti dhe do shofesh nje burre te vjeter reth 65 vjec, trup madh dhe me floke komplet te bardha.
Falenderoj Claus, Rani dhe xha Kasua per fjalet e mira. Naten e mire. Flasim neser. Gruaja po me merr shpirtin dhe nuk me le me te jem para kompjuterit. Ne familjen tone une jam KOKA dhe gruaja eshte QAFA. Ju e dini se si leviz qafa duhet te levizi edhe koka. Naten e mire.
Ti shko deri afer Luzernit dhe pastaj merr autobandin e Interlaken se del per shkurt (po mos i bjer shkurt fare) ne Thun. Aty pastaj shifni dhe beni me Plakun. Po ti ke shance te fitosh se ti duket qe je ne social, meqe mbete gjithe dite ne interenet, dhe prandaj duhet te jesh i palodhur nga puna e rende e kapitalizimit. Ikni bir i xhait dhe shikoi te beni ndonje frang pune andej na Helvetia se duan te han femija. Tema ish per Jeremicin.
xha Kaso,
Me thene te drejten edhe une jam i papune dhe marr leke te papuni qe i bie 80% te rroges normale, m.q.s une kam nje djale 15 vjec. Naten e mire.
Pershendetje !
Fillimisht ,Plaku ju faleminderit per “KOMPROMISIN”. E vleresoj shume.
Marr shkak nga cka lezova ,deshiroj t ju them pos per prejardhjen e Grekeve nga Pellazget, kan shkruar ne veprat e tyre, midis te tjer
Isokratis — Siqeliotis —- Plutarkos ( si tek Vii parallili -Jeta Paralele -Kapitulli THiseas 3, por edhe tek Peri Figjis.)
Platon, (tek Timeas Faq 22-23
Dhionisis Alikarnasos —- Omiros —- Thuqithidis—Irodhotu —–Aristoteli e te tjer.
Me poshte do gjeni edhe veprat ne te cilen kan shkruar per kete.
The Greeks are indigenous and direct descendants of the Pelasgians. Here the ancient passages which refer to indigenous Greek and Pelasgian origin:
“Why do we who dwell in this city, not go away from here or the people found it deserted or gathered many nations of mixed race and we came to understand it. The origin is so good and genuine, so the land itself, which we were born, is in our possession without interruption. We are indigenous and can not name the city with the same names that gives one the closest relatives. We alone among all the Greeks have the right to call the nurse, home and mother “(Isocrates ‘Panegyric’, 24-25).
“As for the antiquity of the genus, not only Greeks and barbarians, many see themselves as indigenous …” (Diodorus Siculus, ‘Historical Library, “A, 9. 3).
“Who else has said about his country’s so nice tribute as Euripides:
Truly, people who did not come from elsewhere,
but native born “(Plutarch,” On Flight », 604D-E, 13).
‘Theseus’ maiden race reaches the Erechtheus and the first indigenous “(Plutarch,” Parallel Lives, Theseus, “3.).
“Receiving … (the goddess Athena) your sperm from the Earth and Hephaestus … (…) All this order and the organization gave the goddess first to you, when he founded the city. Choose the specific place where you were born, because predicted that the temperate climate of the positive impact on human wisdom. The goddess was a friend of war and wisdom. therefore chose the place that gave rise to humans similar to that founded the first city “(Plato,” Timaeus », 23e & 24c).
“From the Niobe, and not Jupiter (this is the first mortal woman to whom synousiasthike Zeus) was born a boy, Argos, and says Akousilaos, and Pelasgos, which were named by the Pelasgians, the inhabitants of the Peloponnese. But Hesiod says Pelasgos was autochthonous (born from the earth) “(Apollodorus,” Mythology », II. 2, 3).
“UNITED gar and the Pelasgians Genus Ellinikon of the ancient Peloponnese, and the native Pelasgians saying” (Dionysius Alikarnassefs. “Roman Archaeology” I 17).
Also Ovid, Latin poet, referring to the events of the Trojan war, constantly identifies with the Greek Pelasgians:
“A thousand ships followed him and every race of the Pelasgians together, bound by an oath in a joint campaign” (“Metamorphoses”, Book XII, verse 7).
“Already all the horror of the Phrygians, ornament and protector of the nation of the Pelasgians, the Aiakidis, and glue in battle …” (“Metamorphoses”, Book XII, Verse 611).
“And what report this, when he says that for the pelasgic fleet bore arms against Trojans and Zeus?” (“Metamorphoses”, Book XIII, verse 268).
But Homer puts Achilles in Greek “Iliad” (W 233-234) to exclaim affiant in the name of Zeus:
“Zeus Ana Dodonaie Pelasgian.”
And Thucydides considers Greek descendants of Pelasgians:
“Before the Trojan that appears to attempted anything united Hellas. I do not not even had that name throughout the country, but before the years of the Greek son of Deucalion there was no the name and gave the country the local name of various peoples, and in most parts of the Pelasgians. And when the Greek and children were strong in Fthiotida and inviting other cities as assistants, then now the other peoples, individually, began to be called Greeks because of the frequent interaction with them, but the name for a long course time had not the strength to prevail at all. It proves not so above all Homer because, although there was downstream from the Trojan still nowhere metacheiristhike Greek name for all those who campaigned not for others, only for the soldiers of Achilles, who had come from Fthiotida, who of course, was the first Greek … “(Thucydides ‘Peloponnesian War’, A, 3).
Strabo, identifies the Greeks Pelasgians, Denmark and the Argos:
“I think that the glory of the city is prepared to be called by it (ie Argos, be late) the Pelasgiotes, the Danae, and the Argives and the other Greeks” (“Geography”, I, VI, 8).
The above passages we believe is more than enough to prove that the ancient Greek writers saw themselves as indigenous and tribal development of the Pelasgians.
The catastrophic events of the cataclysm, beyond which caused great suffering to people, precipitating and social changes brought crack to Pelasgian racial ties. The surviving sons of King of Fthiotida Deucalion, Greek and Amfiktionos appears that seceded from pligmeni Pelasgian homosexual.
The Greeks took to create a new nation from the ruins of the old, while Amphictyon dealt with the political organization of the project. So also, and since then, all associations between the Greeks called Amphictyonies. That the Greek and his breakaway from Pelasgian homosexual illustrated by the following statement of Herodotus:
“I believe that the Greek nation, always spoke the language that speaks today. At first, when parted from the Pelasgians was small and weak, but the power was increased when they joined other nations such as the Pelasgians … “(Herodotus A, 58).
The Greeks and Pelasgians who followed him did not start strong enough to impose on others their same-sex. The Greek Pelasgian breed began to grow stronger later when others joined them Pelasgians. Dionysius Alikarnassefs says that the Greek with a group of martial Curetes Pelasgians and Leleges, which Aristotle accepts as old residents of the Achelous country consolidated its dominance in Thessaly. The sons of the Greeks, Doros, Aiolos and Xouthos were those who undertook to complete the family plan. At that time the only place called Greece was the city in Greece Thessaly Fthia:
“Those who think that talking about the city, residents of Farsala show sixty steps from the city a ruined city which they believe is Greece with two fountains near, the Messiida and Ypereia. The Malta fever again, away from their settlement some ten stages say Greece was built after Enipea, when the city was named Pyrrha, and from Greece who were in the lowlands, the Greeks came and stayed in the coma. Proof of having to purchase the tomb of the Greek, the son of Deucalion and Pyrrha “(Strabo, ‘Geography’, I, V, 6).
Over time, the inhabitants of Greece began to extend their domination and the surrounding area. During the Trojan War, Greece had the following boundaries, which provides Strabo relying on Homer:
“As for the Pelasgian Argos accept that once was built near the city of Thessaly in Larissa. Today there is. Others do not believe city, but I think he means the same plain of Thessaly called so, because he called Abba, who came and lived here from Argos. For Phthia, some think it is the same country as Greece and Achaia. These are the other part, the southern of the two parties which was divided Thessaly. It seems however that the poet thought the two countries Phthia and Greece, as saying:
“They lived Phthia and Greece.
“These two when he says:
“And then, from the spacious Greece,
I arrived in Fthia.
“And that:
“Many women of Achaia, located in Greece and Phthia.
“Here the poet meant two, but it is not clear whether he means cities or countries. Downstream talking about Greece as saying that stretches from the Paleofarsalos Fthiotides Thebes. (In this region the Thetideio that even this part of a country’s Achilles’) “(Strabo,” Geography », V, 6).
In subsequent generations the descendants of Greeks became very aggressive and expansive. Pelasgians, those who were no longer under the domination took the names of the clan in whose subject. So we have:
Dorian, who followed the descendants of Doros, Aiolos, who followed and who was under the faction of Aeolus and Ionians and Achaeans respectively Xouthos sons, Ion and Achaia. Herodotus confirms our reasoning and shall state on the Ionian and Aeolian:
“These Ionians, as long lived in the Peloponnese, the area now called Achaia, before you go there Danaos and Xouthos, called Pelasgians Seashore, in the words of the Greeks, who, however, had to change their name Ions in the Xouthos son, Ion.
“The islanders had given seventeen ships and they were armed like the Greeks. And they were originally Pelasgians and became the nation Ionic much later, like the Ionians, who founded the Dodekapolis, who had come from Athens. The Aeolian gave sixty ships, and they had the same weapons with the Greeks and earlier they were called Pelasgians, as reported by the Greeks “(Herodotus, VII, 94-95).
But the ancient historian, Thucydides, supports the same:
“Before the Trojan that appears to attempted anything united Hellas. I do not not even had that name throughout the country, but before the years of the Greek son of Deucalion there was no the name and gave the country the local name of various peoples, and in most parts of the Pelasgians. And when the Greek and children were strong in Fthiotida and inviting other cities as assistants, then now the other peoples, individually, began to be called Greeks because of the frequent interaction with them, but the name for a long course time had not the strength to prevail at all. It proves not so above all Homer because, although there was downstream from the Trojan still nowhere metacheiristhike Greek name for all those who campaigned not for others, only for the soldiers of Achilles, who had come from Fthiotida, who of course, was the first Greek … “(Thucydides ‘Peloponnesian War’, A, 3).
Highly important is the information preserved by Aristotle on the evolution of the first Greeks through the bowels of the Pelasgians. The philosopher puts the first cradle of the Greeks around Dodona and the Achelous river in the land of Epirus:
“The so-called flood of Deucalion and even one who was in the area of ??Greece and especially in ancient Greece. And this (ancient Greece), is the area around Dodona and the Achelous (river) ‘(Aristotle, “Weather”, I-352).
Dodona, however, was the ancient pelasgic sacred center of worship of Zeus Pelasgians. As we have seen, moreover, he puts Homer in Greek Achilles invokes Dodonaio pelasgic Jupiter. Why a Greek hero to invoke the supreme god of pelagic although he was not Pelasgos and why Aristotle identifies the birthplace of the ancient Greeks with the sacred Dodoni Pelasgians although the Greeks were Pelasgians? Thanasis Margaritis says about relying on Ancient sources:
“Dodona, in accordance with the ancient traditions of the Greeks, was in the” middle “of a territorial area of ??Epirus, which the Pelasgians, ancient inhabitants, called” Ellopian “(ancient name of today’s Valley of Ioannina). Ellopia several of the ancient Greek writers later saw as the “birthplace” of the Greeks. (…) And yet Aristotle writes, “lived here since the Seli and then so-called Greeks and Greek now.”
These Pelasgians priests of Dodona, the Seli, who worked in the temple of Zeus, regarded as the progenitors of the Greek concept growing out of previous Pelasgika guts and gave new dynamism, vision and future of the Pelasgians that are now called Hellenes. No coincidence that those Pelasgians renamed Greeks adopted as the main god Zeus while those who remained outside Hellenism remained opposed to the primitive worship of Cronus and the Titans. Many believe that these priests of Jupiter derived the name of the Greeks. The Seli, as received by linguists, pronounced their name with a rough mountain accent removing the initial “sigma” of the word, so instead of “Seli” said “Elloi.” This word is considered to have given the words “Hellas” and “Greeks”, as all their derivatives:
“Like the rest has been lost and the oracle at Dodona. The oracle, when the Superintendent was founded by the Pelasgians. The Pelasgians cited as the oldest rulers of Greece. the poet says:
“Zeus, king of Dodona, the Pelasgians’
and Hesiod:
“He went to oak of Dodona, the seat of Pelasgians”
(…) If I should tell them Ellous as Pindar, Saddle, as saying, suggesting that Homer is questionable, because the script does not allow security to view. The Philochorus again says Dodona, and in Evia, the nearby site called Ellopia. themselves and Hesiod:
“There is a Ellopia, a country with good fields and meadows, and here a Dodoni city is built on the extremity” (Strabo, ‘Geography’, Z, VI, 10).
However, deliveries around Sellis seem to come into harmony with the reports of the Greek son of Deucalion and the Greek patriarch. Plutarch notes that after the Flood, “Deucalion and Pyrrha kathidrysan the sanctuary of Dodona in place of Molossos which came to settle.” This important factor when combined with reports of Aristotle that ancient Greece was the Dodona and the Achelous on the country, and that the first army of the son of Deucalion, the Greek, consisted of Curetes and Leleges, who always Leleges to Aristotle initially lived in the area of ??Achelous, and that the stone people who created Deucalion and Pyrrha after the flood was Leleges, all our data make the following clear picture of operative facts which led the Greeks:
Deucalion and Pyrrha after the flood consult the oracle at Delphi tells them to throw stones behind them. The stones that Deucalion throws are those men who fly the Pyrrha women. In essence, however, explained and Strabo, gather around them those who encounter survivors Pelasgians, who called Leleges because synthesise population surviving several previous Pelasgic tribes. All are bound for the Continent, down from Parnassus, and found Dodona the priests Sellis. Later, the Greek army gathers Leleges (ie troop composed of survivors who followed their parents) and Pelasgians Curetes and invades (returns) in Thessaly, where he originated. Founded the city in Greece Phthia (in which his father reigned before the flood) and then those who follow him Pelasgians or his descendants will be called Greeks. So we can say that there are two cradles of the Greeks. Ancient Greece referred to Aristotle and the Continent in the area of ??Dodona and the Achelous, the Ellopia, bringing together survivors and found refuge in the deluge of Deucalion and Thessaly, where there was first a part of the Pelasgians in the Greek will take Greek name and will be recorded as the first Greek history.
Until the Trojan, the inhabitants of Greece were national Pelasgians and also listened to the Achaeans, Denmark, etc. Argitis Greeks called even at that time only the inhabitants of Thessaly and Central Greece. Slowly, slowly, and over the generations, descendants of the Pelasgians who belonged to the tribes (former factions) of the Dorians, Ionians, and Achaeans Aeolians will decide and will accept as their common national name to be called Greeks, descendants of honorary Greek.
Those who still Pelasgians not embedded in the new nation, and remained isolated in the mountains of Mr. Greece, as in Arcadia, the mountainous Thrace and Illyria (Albania) as either same-sex allied with the Greeks in all cases, as Arcadians, were either hostile relations with the Greeks Pelasgian origin as happened with the Illyrians.
(Kerkoj ndjese per ata qe lezimi do i duket i lodhshem)
eleftheria,
Faleminderit per shkrimin civil dhe sidomos per materjalin ne anglisht. Me vjen keq por une mendoj se diskutimi se kush jane pasardhesit e vertete te pellazgeve nuk eshte aq i thjeshte.
Ne meterjlalin shqip, shif linkun :
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiri
Ketu thuhet se : “Epiri është toka klasike dhe vatra e një populli tepër të lashtë. Që në muzgun e kohërave, në gadishullin ballkanik endeshin pellazgët të mbuluar me një vel misteri. Mitologjia thotë se ata ishin “njerëzit e parë”. Bile helenët, të cilët në mënyrë të padiskutueshme i konsideronin pellazgët më të vjetër se veten, për ta përdornin një epitet të pashlyeshëm “proselinoi” (parahansor), pra më të vjetër se vet Hëna. Kjo figur e skajshme është tepër elokuente për lashtësinë e popullit tonë. Fijet e misterit pellazg ndërthurren në kohëra,gjersa në histori përmenden ilirët.Si një popull kryesor,si një “Hauptvolk”- siç e pat quajtur një nga themeluesit e ilirologjisë L.G.Thunman,ilirët morën pjesë në proceset themelore shoqërore e kulturore,në ngjarjet kryesore politike që përshkruan botën antike të Mesdheut.
Qytetërimi ilir do të mbushte shtratin e historisë së ardhme. Kontrasti me Romën do t’i evidentonte ilirët si popull tribunal të lirisë. Për të nënshtruar trojet ilire Romës iu desh të harxhonte gati gjysmën e kohës me anë të së cilës krijoi tërë perandorinë e saj të përbotëshme.”
Ndersa ne materjalin tend anglisht ( vertetesine e te cilit nuk e ve ne dyshim) thuhet :
“The Greeks are indigenous and direct descendants of the Pelasgians…”
Pra ne shqip : Greket jane indigjene dhe pasardhesit direkt te pelasgeve…
Pra sic e shef ka dy interpretime te ndryshme. M.q.s. une si profesjon jam shume larg ketyre gjerave nuk jam ne gjendje te vleresoj se cili interpretim eshte i verteti. Mendoj se keto gjera duhen diskutuar ne ndonje simposim specjalistesh shqiptare, greke dhe te huaj e kesaj fushe. Pershendetje.
nuk e shoh dot kete fytyre te shemtuar ma humbi diten sot nga frika si plaka te borbardha me 7 xhuxha
Helenet ishte nje dege nga pellasget ne fillim por u perzje me shume popuj te tjere te ndryshem., dhe formuan nje gjuhe tjeter dhe nje komb tjeter,
kurse pellasget kurre nuk u perzjen me te tjere por ruajten gjakun dhe gjuhen e tyre qe ishte ndryshe nga ajo greke .
nga Herodotos, Volume 1, faqja 182
Herodotos, Volume 1
Page 182
History – 1880
The Pelasgians were a different nation from the Hellenes : their language was peculiar, and not Greek:
The Hellenic race has never, since its first origin, changed its speech. This at least seems evident to me.
It was a branch of the Pelasgic, which separated from the main body, and at first was scanty in numbers and of little power; but it gradually spread and increased to a multitude of nations, chiefly by the voluntary entrance into its ranks of numerous tribes of barbarians.
The Pelasgi, on the other hand, were, as I think, a barbarian race which never greatly multiplied.
http://books.google.com/books?id=QxkGAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA182&dq=The+Pelasgi,+on+the+other+hand,+were,+as+I+think,+a+barbarian+race+which+never+greatly+multiplied&lr=&cd=15#v=onepage&q=The%20Pelasgi%2C%20on%20the%20other%20hand%2C%20were%2C%20as%20I%20think%2C%20a%20barbarian%20race%20which%20never%20greatly%20multiplied&f=false
Mos te kete merak Z. Jeremic. Kosovaret sic po bejne me Turqine, do bejne edhe me Serbine pas shume vitesh. Do mohojne ne historine e tyre c’u kane bere serbet, dhe mbase do kerkojne prape bashkim. Nuk na e kane fajin as serbet, as greket, e as Turqit ne joooo.
te pakten keta jane njerez qe e duan vendin jo si ne qe e shesin e qelbim e shkaterrojme …dhe pastaj bejme kot si patriot te medhenj
me duket gomarllek mbrojtja e teorive se shqipetaret jane arber apo budallalleqe te tjera pa sens. Ne shqipetaret e jugut deri ne lumin e vlores perfshi gjirokaster e sarande jemi EPIROTE, kjo nuk do me thene qe nuk jemi shqipetare. Kush nuk e kupton kete vazhdon te beje gabime te cilat peshojne ne arsyetimet dhe besueshmerine e teorive qe mbrojme. E sa per jeremicin armikut ki inatin po jepi hakun…kjo do me thene sa te larte e ka ndjenjen e vendit te tij ky njeri, qe mbase per ne eshte i urryer, por i pare ne sensin e serbeve eshte per tu admiruar…
jo vetem jeremici eshte i shqetesuar por edhe putini kur vizitoi serbine,ne nje foto,dukej i menduar,mbase dhente zoti,atij te cmendurit,erdoganit,me gjithe mend i cmendur,vete te luaje me masonine,te krijoje ndonje konflikt,rajonal,te ndeze makinen ruse,te zgjidhim muhabetin nje here e pergjithmone.
enh,
Harroje Rusine. Harta geo-strategjike ne bote, lavdi zotit, ka ndryshuar. Rusia nuk ka me dhembe per te kafshuar. Mos shpreso me tek Rusia. Nuk kuptoj se, perse duhet perseri te behet kasaphane ne Ballkan. Nuk lejon njeri me qe ne qender te Europes te behet genocid, sic don ti.
Pershendetje.
Ne historin e botes shkruhet qe shqiptaret jane populli origjinal i ballkanit .
World history
By Hutton Webster
Page 530
No other part of Europe of equal extent contains so many different peoples as the Balkan Peninsula.
The original inhabitants are represented to-day by the Albanians
http://books.google.com/books?id=cboXAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA530&dq=No+other+part+of+Europe+of+equal+extent+contains+so+many+different+peoples+as+the+Balkan+Peninsula.&hl=en&ei=a_BwTursNuHH0AGV2JSJCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=No%20other%20part%20of%20Europe%20of%20equal%20extent%20contains%20so%20many%20different%20peoples%20as%20the%20Balkan%20Peninsula.&f=false
Ne historin e balkanit shkruhet se greket nuk jane populli original i ballkanit
The history of the Balkan Peninsula: from the earliest times to the present day
By Ferdinand Schevill page 3
Eastern question (Balkan) – 1922 – 558 pages
GREEKS ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THE PENINSULA
http://books.google.com/books?id=rVMpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=because++the+Greeks,+though+not+the+original+inhabitants+of+the+peninsula&lr=&ei=KDfOS7WcN4KKzQS9_-2FAg&cd=1#v=onepage&q=because%20%20the%20Greeks%2C%20though%20not%20the%20original%20inhabitants%20of%20the%20peninsula&f=false
Ne historin e botes shkruhet prape se greket nuk jane pellazg, por ata i debuan pellasget ose u perzihen me ata
The history of the world
By Samuel Maunder
Page 292
The Hellenes spread themselves over Greece, and drove out the Pelasgi, or mingled with them. Their name became the general name of the Greeks.
Greece now raised itself from its savage state, and improved still more rapidly after the arrival, some Phoenician and Egyptian colonies. About sixty years after the (load of Deucalion, Cadmus the Phoenician settled in Thebes,
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shum interesante kjo….geixhi nuk duhet ta ket lexu ket…qe vje bon gam gam ktej
Geixh eshte nje pesionist qe vetem di historin e priftit , ose ate histori qe e fallsifikojne ne Greqi.
Ja cfar shkruan edhe Enciklopedia Amerikane ne vitin 1874
Se gjuha e shqiptarëve moderne është ajo e pellazgëve të lashtë,
The American cyclopaedia: a popular dictionary of general knowledge
George Ripley, Charles Anderson Dana – Juvenile Nonfiction – 1874
Page 207
The ancient Greeks and Romans speak of a Pelasgian race as the common stock of both nations, but without furnishing sufficient information to place it within the reach of history.
Gladstone designates the Pelasgians as pure Aryan, and the Hellenes as Aryan with a residue or mixture of Turanian elements.”
Geldart considers the popular notion of the Greeks themselves, that the language of the modern Albanians is that of the ancient Pelasgians, as nearest the truth.
http://books.google.com/books?id=xEVMAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA207&dq=Geldart+considers+the+popular+notion+of+the+Greeks+themselves,+that+the+language+of+the+modern+Albanians+is+that+of+the+ancient&lr=&cd=2#v=onepage&q=Geldart%20considers%20the%20popular%20notion%20of%20the%20Greeks%20themselves%2C%20that%20the%20language%20of%20the%20modern%20Albanians%20is%20that%20of%20the%20ancient&f=false
Ja cfar shkruhet te historia e Botes nga Universiteti I Oxfordit
gjuha greke nuk pranohet autoktone
The ancient belief that the Greek language was autochthonous cannot be accepted;
Indo-European speakers must have reached Greece from elsewhere, though the language may have acquired its main characteristics in Greece itself Greek Language
A Dictionary of World History. Oxford University Press, 2000. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press. 2007
Ose mund te lexoni librin e okfordit
The Oxford companion to classical civilization
Simón Hornblower, Antony Spawforth – 2004
Oxford University Press, Page 317
Greek language establish whether Greek belongs to a specific subgroup of IE; the old theory that it was closely related to Latin or Italic has long since been exploded.
It shares a number of features with Armenian and Indo-Iranian but they are not sufficient to define specific subgroups.
The ancient belief that the language was autochthonous cannot be accepted;
Kush eshte gjuha me e vjeter pyet nje gjuhetar , pergjigjet jepen nga Elizabeth Pyatt e Universitetit te penselvanes e cila shkruan:
Me një kthesë te fatit, gjuha shqipe mund të konsiderohet si shumë e vjetër dhe greqishtja shumë e re
Ask-A-Linguist – Oldest Language
Answers provided by Elizabeth Pyatt , Pennsylvania State University.
With a twist of fate, Albanian might be considered very “old” and Greek pretty “new”.
See an Introduction to the Indo-European Languages by Philip Baldi.
http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/oldest.cfm
pema e gjuhes indoevropiane qe eshte bere ne vitin 1974 nga Instituti Suedez ne vitin 1974, e cila eshte vendosur ne publikimin boteror
shqipja eshte klasifikuar si gjuha me e vjeter indoevropiane dhe kjo peme eshte publikuar perseri 7-8 vjet perpara
WEBSTER’S NEW TWENTIETH CENTURY DICTIONARY, Unabridged Second Edition, De Luxe Color, William Collins and World Publishing Co., Inc., 1975, ISBN: 0-539-048523-
http://www.giovanniarmillotta.it/albania/tree.html
The Albanian language has been determined to be the oldest of the European languages by DNA/genes studies at Stanford U.(Luigi Cavalli-Sforza).
Gjuha shqipe eshte klasifikuar si gjuha me e vjetr e Botes nga Luigi Cavalli-Sforza ne studimin e tij ne librin gjuha. popujt ,dhe genet.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/Dardaniaaa/cavalli-sforza.jpg
Plaku mirmbrema !
Un thjesht ju dergova paragraf se cfar kan shkruar Plutarkos, Sokratis , Thuqithidis e te tjer..
PRA UN DERGOVA DISA PARAGRAF,, SE CFAR SHKRUAJN ATA. Dhe ato jan dokumenta !
Omos,ashtu sikurse ne mund te lezojm keta Grek te lasht, ne gjuhen Greke, iliret shkruanin shqip? Me fal qe duket si pyetje femije..
Ju pershendes
Ketu ne kete liber tregohet se shqipja eshte gjuha nene e greqishtes dhe e latinishtes
Proceedings of the Literary & Philosophical Society of Liverpool, Issue 29
By Literary and Philosophical Society of Liverpool – 1875
Page 373
There is but one other language that gives us s in this word, and that is Albanian, which has siper.
As Albanian seems to be modern Graeco-italic, i.e., the modern representative of the mother of Greek and Latin alike, its evidence here
http://books.google.com/books?id=oh0XAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA373&dq=As+Albanian+seems+to+be+modern+Graeco-italic,+ie,+the+modern+representative+of+the+mother+of+Greek+and+Latin&hl=en&ei=jcVuTb2vIIi2tgfQ6KCKDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=As%20Albanian%20seems%20to%20be%20modern%20Graeco-italic%2C%20ie%2C%20the%20modern%20representative%20of%20the%20mother%20of%20Greek%20and%20Latin&f=false
Ja cfare shkruan instituti kanadez
Pellazget e vjeter akoma mbijetojne te shqiptaret e sotem
Proceedings of the Royal Canadian Institute
By Canadian Institute (1849-1914).
Page 144
The primitive seat of the Aryans before their dispersion was in Europe ; The Swiss lake dwellers and the old Pelasgians, who survive in the Albanians of to-day, were descended from the primitive Aryan stock
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ne librin Thesari i gjuhëve, shqipja klasifikohet Thraco-Illyrian (Pelasgic).
The Treasury of Languages
Page 265
Thraco-Illyrian (Pelasgic).
Class-name for the languages illustrated by Albanian
http://books.google.com/books?id=C8UD2DcCzkcC&pg=PA265&dq=Thraco-illyrian+%28pelasgic%29&hl=en&ei=xpFlTd6uPIGztwetkfzjBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Thraco-illyrian%20%28pelasgic%29&f=false
perseri institute Indian shkruan se shqipja moderne eshte gjuha pellazge e vjeter
The Imperial and asiatic quarterly review and oriental and colonial record
By Oriental Institute (Woking, England), East India Association (London, England)
Page -176
From philological proofs, the authors deduce that the modern Albanian is essentially the older Pelasgic.
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZGAaAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA177&dq=The+Pelasgic+races,+the+area+they+occupied,+the+language+they+used,+the+territories+they+invaded+and+conquered+are+dealt+with%3B+and+among+other+conclusions,+it+is+maintained+that+at+Troy,+both+the+besiegers+and+the+besieged+were+Pelasgic+Tribes.&hl=en&ei=AxE2TbXXCsT58Ab5k4XJCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=The%20Pelasgic%20races%2C%20the%20area%20they%20occupied%2C%20the%20language%20they%20used%2C%20the%20territories%20they%20invaded%20and%20conquered%20are%20dealt%20with%3B%20and%20among%20other%20conclusions%2C%20it%20is%20maintained%20that%20at%20Troy%2C%20both%20the%20besiegers%20and%20the%20besieged%20were%20Pelasgic%20Tribes.&f=false
nga fjalori etimologjik evropian : shqipja eshte gjuha me e vjeter e evropes
INDO EUROPEAN ETYMOLOGICAL DICTIONARY
Albanian is the only Indo European language that has preserved the archaic structure of proto Aryan language. Albanian adjectives and ordinals come after the stressed nouns.
The law formulated in 1892 by J. Wackernagel, according to which unstressed parts of the sentence tend to occupy a position after the first stressed word normally situated at the beginning of a sentence qualifies Albanian as the oldest living Indo European language
http://web.archive.org/web/20071106105423/www.geocities.com/protoillyrian/
Perseri departamenti I gjuhesis se Vjenes, e cileson shqipen e vjeter si nje influence e madhe e gjuheve te ballkanit
A project by the Department of Linguistics at the University of Vienna aims to prove that (Old) Albanian was a major influence on the other Balkan languages.
http://www.fwf.ac.at/en/public_relations/press/pv200805-en.html